tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10737238.post6350629264559549680..comments2024-03-22T03:10:08.766-05:00Comments on The Good Raised Up: FGC Gathering 2009: Shane ClaiborneUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10737238.post-50648344137176853842009-08-08T17:06:19.206-05:002009-08-08T17:06:19.206-05:00Liz in the Mist -
Good to see you here! Sounds l...<b>Liz in the Mist</b> -<br /><br />Good to see you here! Sounds like it was a real opportunity to be able to chat with Shane, especially in light of your upcoming trip to Rwanda. Safe travels!<br /><br /><b>Mark</b> -<br /><br />I think George Fox's words (among others) could have seeped into me back then had I been relatively "spiritually mature"--that is, not frightened or put off by the outward, zealous nature of another's ministry. <br /><br />I guess I'll never know, though Shane's talk certainly raised the question for me. <br /><br /><b>Robin</b> -<br /><br />I don't think it's Shane's "certainty" as much as it is that I simply wasn't raised with that sort of Christian vernacular, understanding, world view, etc. <br /><br />And like you, I haven't been able to get past the design of the book. Maybe another time.<br /><br />Blessings,<br />LizLiz Opphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09802348848085930901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10737238.post-37580465842713802212009-07-28T00:04:27.561-05:002009-07-28T00:04:27.561-05:00I wonder if the certainty in Claiborne's messa...I wonder if the certainty in Claiborne's message also impacts your ability to hear it?<br /><br />On a side note about Claiborne, I can't bring myself to read his book Jesus for President because it is so overly design-y despite the fact that Chris said it's really good.Robin M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10336915224193704866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10737238.post-56983640898453006352009-07-27T19:16:31.868-05:002009-07-27T19:16:31.868-05:00Hi Liz,
Thank you for sharing your reflections o...Hi Liz,<br /> Thank you for sharing your reflections on Shane's talk. I have listened to a few interviews with him and some clips of his talks. I appreciate a lot of the things I have heard him say, and the things he has done. While I believe he is also trying to live out what he understands Christ is calling him to do, there are differences is how we approach God. I believe we can rejoice in our shared concerns, and in the different ways that God works through people, without giving up our own tradition. That makes it easier to look beyond the places where we differ.<br /><br />For folks who think of Quakerism as following the testimonies (or a similar outwardly-oriented categorization), I would ask "Is Shane Claiborne a Quaker?"<br /><br />You wrote: <i>And he made me wonder about the judgments that I have about "evangelists" and whether I would have been turned off by George Fox or if the Light would have still reached me, despite the words it was cloaked in</i><br /><br />My first reaction was "yes, it would have", because my understanding is that the Gospel - the power - is not in the words but in the Spirit behind them, and that is what would have reached you. That does not mean that you might still have had a negative reaction to the words. There was a time when I reacted quite negatively to something a friend had written, and yet there was something that stayed with me and grew in me, and it is one of the reasons I found my way back to God. Isaac Penington also wrote of his first encounters with Quakers and how then engendered a loving spirit in him even though because of their differences in doctrine, he said he despised them.<br /><br />With love,<br /> MarkMark Wutkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01735952904584567390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10737238.post-88678959574467455782009-07-27T17:10:25.968-05:002009-07-27T17:10:25.968-05:00Thanks for your reflections!
Shane came to town ...Thanks for your reflections! <br /><br />Shane came to town this spring and it was well attended and I enjoyed hearing him speak very much. His book Irresistible Revolution is worth reading. I like his emphasis on putting beliefs into action, that was the main thing that spoke to me.<br /><br />I got to eat lunch with him and a friend of his afterward, they were very easy to speak with. They had been to Rwanda recently (where I am going) so it was neat to discuss that.Liz in the Misthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13535396346855135995noreply@blogger.com